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Posted 05 November 2010 - 08:02 PM ( #1 )

The pokewalker thingys or whatever they are called are SUCH a ripoff on tmgc's!!! it looks, acts, and infra-red communicates like one!!! I WANT TO SUE!!!
Oh, and if you seen a cheat to pick any V4.5 character by pressing down the 'debug' on the circut board, DO NOT DO IT!!! that is how I made my brother's (now not working) V4.5 SUPER- HYPER after picking a character...
And the V4.5 Twin tama cheat is a fake...

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 10:05 AM ( #2 )

The Pokewalker is nothing like a Tamagotchi, maybe the buttons and the infrared, but you don't "raise your own pet". It's POKEMON. Does a tamagotchi transfer pokemon from your game and then you level it up by walking around? Didn't think so.
Sorry for sounding so rude but I am a Pokemon fan and they have not in any way copied a tamagotchi.

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 05:30 PM ( #3 )

Not even close.
It's a pedometer game that communicates with a video game.
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Posted 08 November 2010 - 01:03 AM ( #4 )

Besides, these Pokewalkers have been around wayyyyyy before the Connections even took off. I remember my best friend let me borrow one to play with and that was back when I was in middle school in the early 2000s (I have now inherited it from her, and it's wonderful to play with...lots of people would pay big money to have one). These, along with Nanos, Giga Pets, Dinkie Dinos, etc., exist by their own merits, not because they're trying to copy Tamagotchi. I think there's a huge misconception about these "odd" pets: they're not trying to copy Tamagotchi, since they all have their own company label, features, and all. The real copiers are manufacturers who try and stick the Bandai label on products (when they're clearly not from Bandai) and try to pass them off in that way when they're trying to sell their products online.

By the way, it's pretty well known out there that one debugs at their own risk, so no one else is responsible for potential damages to a Tamagotchi. Also, I remember seeing a video in which the owner states that debugging a V4.5 will only put the Tamagotchi into hyper-speed mode, so it definitely helps to do a bit of research before attempting to debug. I don't see much point in debugging anyway. One, you might break the Tamagotchi, and two, it takes all the fun out of getting characters based on the care you give. It might be cool to do once just to try it out and get the technique down but I don't think it's worth it. Sorry about your brother's broken V4.5. As for your feelings toward the Pokemon pedometer, I would recommend trying one out first and reserve judgment until then. :)
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 12:12 PM ( #5 )

Besides, these Pokewalkers have been around wayyyyyy before the Connections even took off. I remember my best friend let me borrow one to play with and that was back when I was in middle school in the early 2000s (I have now inherited it from her, and it's wonderful to play with...lots of people would pay big money to have one). These, along with Nanos, Giga Pets, Dinkie Dinos, etc., exist by their own merits, not because they're trying to copy Tamagotchi. I think there's a huge misconception about these "odd" pets: they're not trying to copy Tamagotchi, since they all have their own company label, features, and all. The real copiers are manufacturers who try and stick the Bandai label on products (when they're clearly not from Bandai) and try to pass them off in that way when they're trying to sell their products online.

By the way, it's pretty well known out there that one debugs at their own risk, so no one else is responsible for potential damages to a Tamagotchi. Also, I remember seeing a video in which the owner states that debugging a V4.5 will only put the Tamagotchi into hyper-speed mode, so it definitely helps to do a bit of research before attempting to debug. I don't see much point in debugging anyway. One, you might break the Tamagotchi, and two, it takes all the fun out of getting characters based on the care you give. It might be cool to do once just to try it out and get the technique down but I don't think it's worth it. Sorry about your brother's broken V4.5. As for your feelings toward the Pokemon pedometer, I would recommend trying one out first and reserve judgment until then. :)


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Posted 11 November 2010 - 02:20 PM ( #6 )

On the Pokeradar game on the Pokewalker, the beep when you don't find something is the same beep that you hear during a bad event (ex: losing a game) on Tamagotchis!
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Posted 12 November 2010 - 10:08 AM ( #7 )

Pokewalker's are specifically built for pokemon heartgold/soul silver.
It's a pedometer to train pokemon. *sigh*
Last night in chat, were you the one trying to show me your "new tamagotchi"?
Because whoever did that, that's a pokewalker too.

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 06:30 AM ( #8 )

Theyre not a rip off. Its a pedometer which connects with pokemon games. And Its not the same losing sound as the beep isnt the same. And what else would they do for a nothing found sound? And like Oldschooltama said, Pocket Pikachu came before Connections and even the P1's I think.

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 01:11 PM ( #9 )

also the like the above the losing beep isnt the same but it would be similar because there are only so many 'buzzers' (as labeled on the circuit board BZ1)

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 12:03 AM ( #10 )

I know that this has been addressed to, but since it's Pokemon-related, I can't help but giving a bit more of an in-depth response of my own two cents. :P

The Pokewalker looks like a Tamagotchi? This is pretty much the only point I can understand. They both have three circular buttons below the main screen that's monochromatic and has a creature on it.

Acts like a Tamagotchi? I've been a passive Tama fan for a few years and I've been using my Pokewalker occasionally since I got it on launch in the US in March. I can't see the similarities at all. The Tamagotchi is a stand alone device, for the most part. You get your egg on it, hatch it, and you can raise it over again all by itself. Throughout the life cycle, you can get some of ~50-ish Tamas. The Pokewalker is a device that requires HGSS. Without one of the games, you might as well throw the Pokewalker out or sell it. Using HGSS, you can transfer one of 493 different creatures. You don't take care of it, it's perfectly fine without you. Just walk around and level it up a bit so it's better in battle when you transfer it back. You can also collect some items and new Pokemon to return to your game.

The purpose of the Pokewalker, at least as I see it, was to help complete your Pokedex. Starting with the third generation, due to more and more Pokemon being introduced, old ones can easily get left behind. When the fourth generation started in 2007 (US launch,) it was possible to get all 493. (Well, 490, if you're not counting the yet-to-be-revealed event Pokemon Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus.) This was fairly straight forward at the time, since most Pokemon fans already owned some of the third generation games, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Fire Red, and Leaf Green. As the fourth generation continued with Platinum's launch in 2009, less and less people owned the third generation required to complete the Pokedex as more fans entered the franchise. (It didn't help Ruby and Sapphire were the lowest selling main games in the franchise. Which is a shame, since they're my favorites.) They tried to fix this by adding a few more Pokemon in Platinum that were impossible to get, but it didn't help much. To further complicate things, the DSi removed the GBA slot, which completely cut off access to the third generation. If you didn't know someone that had the Pokemon you needed, you had no chance. With HGSS being the last entries in the fourth generation, they released the Pokewalker to help catch up a few missing species with people's Pokedexes before the fifth generation with Black and White started. (And to remake Pokemon Pikachu 2, see point about infa-red below.) With a few Pokemon being exclusive to HGSS without trading or migrating using the Pokewalker, this filled the gaps for a few people. Even with the other three regions being featured in the fourth generation, Sinnoh (Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum,) Kanto, and Johto (Heart Gold and Soul Silver,) Hoenn Pokemon had a bit of a chance to catch up. ... If you're not a Pokemon fan, I doubt you understood most of that. Tl;dr- The Pokewalker was made more of a way to get Pokemon and not as a virtual pet.

Infa-Red communication. It's true that both Tamagotchis and Pokewalkers can connect with each other via infa-red and give each other gifts, but that's as far as infa-red goes. With Tamagotchis, you can build up friendships, visit each other, and play games. You can even marry other Tamas once you build up a high enough relationship. With the Pokewalkers, the infa-red port was pretty much needed in order to connect with HGSS in the first place, which is the port's main purpose. However, in the original Gold and Silver, there was a house in Viridian City called the Trainer House. Every day you could battle a trainer, and it would be a CPU controlled team of the person you last used Mystery Gift with using the Gameboy Color's infa-red port. In HGSS, you can now fight multiple people (up to ten I believe, but still one battle per opponent per day,) which is determined by people you connected Pokewalkers with.

Not to mention, Pokemon actually had the infa-red ports first. The Pokemon Pikachu 2 (also known as the Pocket Pikachu 2) came out in 1999 and featured an infa-red port that let you connect to your Gameboy Color using Gold and Silver to send items back to the games using Mystery Gift. (Judging from the commercial, you could also connect to other Pokemon Pikachu 2... Not exactly sure how this works though, since I never owned one.) In 2001, another monochromatic device with an infa-red port called the Pokemon Mini came out. This was like a mini Gameboy in the fashion that it had multiple carts that you can put in and take out of it. It had an infa-red port that allowed you to connect to others and play mini games on it. One of the games for it was a virtual pet in which you take care of the Hoenn starters, but since it was Japanese-only, released near the end of its lifespan, and the details are so scarce on it, I have no idea if the virtual pet game in particular took advantage of the infa-red port... And now, on the other hand, the Tamagotchi Connection V1 came out in 2004, 5 years after the Pokemon Pikachu 2.

Tl;dr- I don't get how in any way the Pokewalker is a copy/ripoff of Tamagotchis.

Also, I don't think you could sue anyone if you don't own the rights to Tamagotchis in the first place.

Yes, I usually end up typing paragraphs when I respond to something Pokemon-related like this.

Edited by MonochromePixel, 17 December 2010 - 12:04 AM.


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Posted 19 December 2010 - 09:53 PM ( #11 )

Uhmm actually *Comment removed*

They arn't claiming its a tamagotchi.
They arn't having ANY of the same features.
Pokemon is probably a MILLION times more popular.
Uhh what else...

*Comment removed*

IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE A TAMAGOTCHI! Its round, not oval, its red and white.
and its a pedometer! There is only ONE pedometer tamagotchi and it came after the
pokemon pikachu pedometer.

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EDIT: Also, pedometers were existing before even tamagotchis were made. c:


OST edit: :o There's no need to get so worked up over it. I think everyone has made their point sufficiently against the OP (who hasn't been active on the forums since this post anyway). Some people grew up knowing "odd" pets and nothing about Tamagotchis and for some others, it's the other way around. In any case, I'd rather the situation not escalate to the point of no return so let's just keep it friendly, yeah? :)

Edited by OldSchoolTama, 19 December 2010 - 10:29 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2010 - 10:41 PM ( #12 )

I'd like to re-post the following LINK by jappyx (which is available as a pinned topic in this particular forum) to remind us all (even me, I had forgotten that this pinned topic was here) that we're in here to help each other. Happy posting, everyone! :)
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 08:57 PM ( #13 )

*9001 Facepalms*
Honestly? A Tamagotchi and Pokemon are different. Take the Pokewalker compared to the V1. They have no relationship whatsoever, I even connected them, too. The sole "Lose beep" sound is a commonly used buzzer. In plus, what does an Oddish have in common with a Memetchi? Just enjoy the good thing(s) about a Pokewalker. Training Pokémon is awesome.

To the topic starter: Calm down, it's practically impossible to sue Nintendo. Silly freak. :P

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 11:26 AM ( #14 )

They are both Toei.... So I really wouldn't see an issue.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 02:59 PM ( #15 )

oh yeah didnt bandai actually MAKE the pokewalker for them ???

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 06:57 PM ( #16 )

i think the pokewalker's purpose was to get people up and moving instead of playing on their DS all day long.It isn't even close to a tamagotchi,its POKEMON.Its not like it's a JD "tamagotchi" or something.Tamagotchis don't battle or find items do they? :mellow: The pokewalker is nothing like a tamagotchi.