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Posted 15 May 2013 - 01:11 PM ( #35 )

I think the reason you need to have an iPhone or iPod for it to work is because BanDai did not want to pay manufacturing costs for a product that may not sell well. They're having to pay enough to make the main body of the TechPet without having to add the controls for the pet, so they just left that to their customers. And the only way to do it was to require another product to be attached, namely an iPhone/iPod. And why Apple, not Android? Although Android is becoming popular, the majority of educational apps are on Apple products, so children are more likely to have access to them. I can't say how many times I've found a great app for learning Japanese or maths or whatever and it's only available on iOS. :angry:



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:30 AM ( #36 )

... I really cannot understand why people are drawing comparisons to this product and Tamagotchi.

 

As it's been stated, this is not a new nor revolutionary idea, similar products have been out in Japan for quite some time now.

 

Just because it's being made by Bandai America in the US, doesn't mean that it's a replacement for Tamagotchi. Everyone needs to realise that Tamagotchi is not all that Bandai America is/was about, it was simply one of their many product lines, so to assume that this is their new idea to replace Tamagotchi is just confusing to me. Besides, it's clear that Bandai have clearly decided to pass everything on to Sync Beatz with the new Tamagotchi L.I.F.E. campaign in the US, and have removed all trace of Tamagotchi from their Bandai.com website, and closed down the TamaTown servers.

 

If anything, this would be better suited to the Tamagotchi Cousins section.

 

As for the actual subject of discussion, I'm not a fan. Not because of the restriction (although that is unfortunate for those without iPhones or such, we are in the digital age, and they aren't expecting every person to buy one. But it's not such a jump to assume that someone that would be interested in a digital dog device to also possess such a phone), but just because I'm not interested in the concept. I prefer the small handheld digital pets. If I wanted a dog, I'd get a real one.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:44 AM ( #37 )

You make a good point. As of now it does seem more fitting for tama-cousins Sam.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:14 AM ( #38 )

I want one >.< :o



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:17 PM ( #39 )

This is a replacement for Tamagotchi. Definitely. There is plenty of evidence.

 

  • BanDai has not made any new Tamas or merchandise for 2 or 3 years which is very irregular since before then they were releasing Tamas fairly often
  • All TamaTown servers have been suddenly closed down but the notice about it said "we look forward to sharing new news with you" which was obviously this thing
  • The Tamagotchi section has been removed from the BanDai website and literally replaced with a TechPet section
  • BanDai are giving indirect, vague responses to people's emails to them about new Tamagotchi releases

If this wasn't a replacement for Tamas and didn't require a phone, I'd definitely want one. It looks cute and a good idea. But it isn't and never will be as good as Tamas. I'm open to new interests, including virtual pets, but I'm not open to replacing things that are important to me.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:15 PM ( #40 )

I'm sorry dazzilitchigirl, but I'm going to have to disagree with you there. What you have there is not evidence, but speculation.

 

1There is a simple explanation for your first point. As far back as 1996, Bandai America have been basing their releases off Japanese ones. The P1 became the Generation 1, the Mori no Tamagotch became the Tamagotchi Ocean, etc. When Tamagotchi was relaunched back in 2004, the Tamagotchi Plus (Japan) became the Tamagotchi Connection (America). The V2 and V3 were different from the Keitai and Akai, yes, but this was because Bandai America didn't want to take that next technological step with the Mobile Phone access (instead they opted for codes and TamaTown on the V3), but even still the V2 and V3 used characters and concepts from a range of Japanese releases, and were modelled in design after the Plus and Keitai Tamagotchis. After that's, it's pretty obvious what they tried to do, by making American versions of each consecutive Japanese release. This stopped in 2008, when Bandai Japan made the Tamagotchi+Color. Bandai America didn't want to do this, so they made the Tamagotchi Music Star. That's the point in which sales of Tamagotchi in Japan began to increase (or at very least remain consistant), and sales of Tamagotchi in America began to decrease. The iD and iD L came in Japan, but all that Bandai America had to offer was another non-Color Tama-Go. The only reason that Bandai America stopped releasing Tamagotchis was because they knew that the only way to save the brand was to make a color screen one, and they did not want to do this. Nothing to do with paving the way for the TechPet.

 

2. This is really up to interpretation, but I took it as "we look forward to sharing new news with you" about Tamagotchi (Tamagotchi L.I.F.E.) and not about Bandai (TechPet). You may be right here though, but it still doesn't mean that it's a replacement, it's just good news for Bandai that they have a new product.

 

3. I don't really see the significance of this, it's a bit of a reach to be honest. The fact that Bandai have lost a product (Tamagotchi), therefore leaving room to add their new product (TechPet), proves nothing. What were they going to do, make a new section for TechPet and leave the former Tamagotchi one blank? Of course they would replace an old product with a new one. It's like saying if they lost Ben 10 and then gained a brand called "Kuddly Kittenz" (very bad product name, I know) that it was a replacement for Ben 10. Besides, it's called alphabetical order. TechPet is in the same spot as Tamagotchi used to be because they both begin with T, which comes after P for Power Rangers Megaforce.

 

4. This one made me chuckle a little. Bandai have been giving indirect, vague responses about Tamagotchi for many, many years now, even before the Tamagotchi Music Star was released, back in 2009.

 

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Just because something is a virtual pet doesn't make it a Tamagotchi knock-off or replacement. This is not handheld, this is not able to evolve into a variety of crazy and loveable creatures, this is not remotely like a replacement for Tamagotchi. And, if it is intended to appeal to the Tamagotchi fans, then it's doing a very poor job of it. Tamagotchi fans do not want TechPet. Tamagotchi fans want Tamagotchi.

 

In my opinion, we won't be seeing anything like a Tamagotchi being released (by Bandai America at least) any time soon. Bandai America have clearly given the brand up to Sync Beatz, and they can't even make a Tamagotchi app without using their friends in Japan, so I doubt that they could make a new Tamagotchi release, let alone in color.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:15 AM ( #41 )

I'm thinking something totally different. I think Bandai are making this because they think it will get popular. They don't seem to know what Tamagotchi fans will like aside from Tamagotchi. I feel they created this so they can get Tamagotchi fans (thinking that T-fans will like this pet) and they can get new fans too. Judging by the posts, it doesn't seem to be working though.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:12 AM ( #42 )

If they hoped Tamagotchi fans would like this thing, well, they can hope in one hand and poop in the other and see which one gets full faster. A lot of Tama fans reject ANYTHING that isn't a handheld virtual pet, including things like Furby and Poo-Chi.

This is a flawed product. A Tamagotchi requires nothing but the unit and batteries. A Tech Pet requires an expensive phone. If you get a phone call when you are playing with a Tama the Tama is still there. If you get a phone call while playing with Tech Pet you have to rip the thing's head off to answer.

 

I have the same problem with Tech Pet that I do with the Tamagotchi App. I don't want a pet on my phone. I don't want a pet on my computer or my game system. I want a pet that's always there. A pet that's always a pet. Not a pet that's a pet one minute and is something entirely different the next. I want a pet that is an actual physical thing. Something I can hold. Something I can touch. I want a self contained creature that doesn't require some external gadget to operate. I want the pet to be real, not a stupid video game. Not an illusion. I want all the technology used to create the pet to exist for one purpose, to make the pet as realistic as possible. I don't want that technology compromised by having it need to do other things like play games or text.  But most of all I don't want companies to insult my intelligence by assuming I'm somebrain dead zombie that can't pry myself away from my phone long enough to do anything else.


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:56 PM ( #43 )

A lot of Tama fans reject ANYTHING that isn't a handheld virtual pet, including things like Furby and Poo-Chi.
 

This is a flawed product. A Tamagotchi requires nothing but the unit and batteries. A Tech Pet requires an expensive phone. If you get a phone call when you are playing with a Tama the Tama is still there. If you get a phone call while playing with Tech Pet you have to rip the thing's head off to answer.

 

I want a pet that is an actual physical thing. Something I can hold. Something I can touch. I want a self contained creature that doesn't require some external gadget to operate.

 

Maybe those particular fans could be a little more open to new (or old, in the case of Furby and Poo-chi) things? XD Furby is a great virtual pet robot. I've been a fan of keychain virtual pets for a long time, and Furby is a favourite of mine.

 

The problem here has little to do with what certain picky fans like, it has everything to do with how bad of an idea this toy is.

 

This thing... I agree with the rest of the quoted text, it is very flawed.

Furby is a good virtual pet/robot because it is well designed, fun and self-contained.

Techpet is basically a phone app with a robot dog body. :/


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Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:43 PM ( #44 )

Agreed 100%. I love Furby, probably just a little more than Tamagotchi. It doesn't matter that some fans will only accept handheld virtual pets. They won't like anything else anyway. What matters is appealing to fans of virtual pets in general, something this techpet thing doesn't seem to be doing.

 

The thing is if this was a self contained pet that didn't require a phone I'd want one. If we can fit all that computing power in a tiny handheld phone imagine what could be done if you took all that power and put it towards creating a complex and lifelike pet. Robotic or handheld. Either would be cool. Handheld pets seem to be dead but I think they still have potential. But sadly, the powers that be don't seem to agree with me. And too many people are so surgically attached to their phones that producing a stand alone handheld pet doesn't seem feasable. But I think if they made one and made it great it would sell.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:23 AM ( #45 )

Just look at that price.

 

http://www.toysrus.c...-88645-16824786

 

As you can see, this is basically an accessory for the iPhone/iPod. Ever seen an Apple product accessory for $50? I haven't either. Yes, I know, it's not boring like a normal accessory, but still, isn't it a little overpriced? I was expecting it to be $25-$30, NOT $50!



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:32 AM ( #46 )

$50 for a headless dog that requires an expensive phone to operate. Yeah, they're insane.


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:13 AM ( #47 )

Wow there are so many things I could say right now. -.-

 

Excusing the fact that I believe Apple accessories usually are very pricey, $50 is quite a lot to spend on just the body when the actual phone is what will be completing this product (and that's a reduced price, list price is $59.99).

 

But that isn't what annoys me most. Not comparing this product to Tamagotchi itself, but one of the reasons that Bandai America didn't want to sell a color screen Tamagotchi is that they viewed the price for the toy to be around $60, which they thought was "too high" (although their Tama-Go and figures total costs exceeded this amount anyway).

 

So not only do they drop the Tamagotchi brand because their overpriced, oversized Tama-Go bombed, but they release a new product for $60 that requires an expensive smartphone to operate when two years ago they could have released the Tamagotchi+Color in America. It's just obscene.


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:48 AM ( #48 )

The new Furbys are $60 and they can't keep them on the shelves. If advertised properly a $60 color Tama would probably do just as well.


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