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10 hours ago, hwd45 said:

You mean Chinese? I'm not really sure why they would release in Japanese there.

Nope, I do mean Japanese! It was very common in the 1990s for, for example, Mega Drive games to release in Hong Kong in Japanese packaging, with Japanese cartridge-shells, but with English in-game text. It went on for years! (Look up Asian releases for that console - you'll see it. :))

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Yeah, just like the Hong Kong Tamagotchi Plus - the packaging looks identical to the Japanese one but PRETTY sure it is in english. I think th Hong Kong P1s are in english too but I think those have an American - style package if I'm not mistaken. Also English iD L had the original packaging (albeit desaturated into white) while the unit was English.

The thing about consoles and games is true too. While Wonderswan was a Japanese-exclusive console (to my knowledge), Hong Kong cartridges for it were in English.

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15 minutes ago, Jhud said:

Yeah, just like the Hong Kong Tamagotchi Plus - the packaging looks identical to the Japanese one but PRETTY sure it is in english. I think th Hong Kong P1s are in english too but I think those have an American - style package if I'm not mistaken. Also English iD L had the original packaging (albeit desaturated into white) while the unit was English.

The thing about consoles and games is true too. While Wonderswan was a Japanese-exclusive console (to my knowledge), Hong Kong cartridges for it were in English.

Yeah, I found an image of the Hong Kong edition's packaging and sure enough it's literally just the Japanese packaging. Strange! I think it's safe to say they're in English given all the English menus and words in the instruction manual.

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A small update: the US version of the V5 Celebrity actually displays a lot more in the ROM test than the earlier V5 versions, with a screen more reminiscent of the ROM version screen seen in later versions. Alongside a little sprite of Nyatchi the ROM version is displayed (on the one I saw the ROM version was 36.0, but there might be more ROM versions for the V5C!) as well as the region of the device (in this case "USA") and another number I'm not sure of the purpose of ("00" here).

This 00 - or sometimes 01 - appears in the ROM test screens of V6, 7 and 8, too. And probably the Dream Town Friends as well, but I've not seen a ROM test of that version as of yet. From what I can tell this is a revision number - unlike earlier versions where revisions are encoded in the ROM version (for example, 2.0 and 2.1 are different revisions of the European version of the V1), it seems as though the later versions split the version into two numbers, with the first representing the general / retail version of the Tamagotchi (the Music Star, Tama-Go and Friends have the ROM versions 6.0, 7.0 and 8.0) while the second number represents revisions. It also seems to split the region into a separate variable too - previously different regions used different ROM versions, but perhaps in later versions the regional differences were so minor that the only differences between the different regional variants was language and date format, so the ROM version itself was kept the same between releases.

The "general version number" concept slightly conflicts with the number displayed on the V5C since clearly the "V5.5" is not V36. I'm not really sure how to reconcile this discrepancy but I assume it just displays 36.0 because it's an international version, so it follows the ROM version numbering used in the Japanese models. It still begs the question of why there's a ".0" at all if revisions are handled by an additional variable, but I guess it's just to make room for the ".5" versions (which ironically never appeared again after the V5 Celebrity, though the Music Star was going to get a "refresh" version which was cancelled and there's some proof that the Tama-Go faced the same fate.

The Music Star had the (revision number) versions of 00 and 01, with the former being the original release and the latter being the second wave - there's subtle differences between these versions but the main difference is that the way in which money is passed down each generation is changed. I think I've heard the price of the Wild Guitar was lowered too.

The US version of the Tama-Go had the number 01 - I've yet to see whether the different regional releases yet. I'm not really sure why it didn't start at 00 this time, but maybe the number 00 was given to the prototype versions seen at the toy fair.

So far I've only seen "00" for the Friends, I think it was the US version. This definitely needs more investigation too, since the European version had different games and the Russian version needs to be investigated, too.

Both the Music Star and the Tama-Go also display a single "0" and the Music Star also has a small "32.0" beneath the word "Ver". I've no idea what any of these numbers mean, though.

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One small update for the V2, too: it's been determined that version A.3 is a European version and that it used the early item names. It seems as though first wave V2s used this ROM version. The history behind the V2's release is a complicated one - apparently, the devices that were planned to release in America in March / April got redirected to Europe, perhaps to make up for the Tamagotchi shortage there, and the release was delayed until June. These "0th wave" V2s frequently used ROM versions with the earlier item names, just as the very early European ones did. So, if your V2 uses these early item names, it's probably version A.3 or earlier. We're still not sure on the exact number that was used by the early Connection V2s, though.

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One last thing I thought I'd mention which I noticed recently! Some versions display a character on screen during a ROM test, but I hadn't noticed until recently that it seems like the character depends on what region the Tamagotchi was released in. European V4s display a little Pochitchi, while the American ones show Nyatchi!

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On 2/7/2019 at 4:06 AM, hwd45 said:

Did you know? English and Japanese are not the only languages Tamagotchi are available in.

None of this post is my own findings! Lots of helpful people in the Discord introduced me to what I'm about to show you.

So, there's this video of a few Tamagotchi V2 glitches, and one of the glitches results in the Tamagotchi playing a sound I don't think I've heard anywhere else. It kinda sounds like the "victory" sound slowed down, to me.

I'd seen this video before, but upon rewatching last night I realised something I must have totally forgotten about: the Tamagotchi is in Spanish. I don't think I've ever seen a Spanish Tamagotchi anywhere else, but apparently most of the Connection versions had a Spanish release. I doubt a release like this is rare, but finding them on the English-speaking internet? Probably not so easy. There might be a whole treasure trove of version differences here which are yet to be uncovered - the Spanish versions also leave a bunch of gaps in the ROM versions list that we can hopefully fill in.

Spanish wasn't the only other language that got its own Tamagotchi release. Have you ever seen a Russian Tamagotchi Friends before? Later Tamagotchi releases had fewer revisional differences so I imagine the Russian version would play identically to an English Tamagotchi Friends aside from the language (though, the games did differ between the European and American releases - I guess, judging by the shell and the date format, that the Russian version was built upon the American version's ROM).

Got any more info on foreign language Tamagotchis like the Spanish releases? Aware of any other obscure Tamagotchi versions? I'd love to hear more about them.

i can confirm this is indeed russian, there are no Ukrainian letters, though they are very similar there are two or three distictive characters between russian and ukrainian. im actually looking into getting one but it may be hard. 

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An update! The PUMA V2 has a ROM version of "A2 H" (thanks to the Discord user that sent me this info!)

This one's a bit weird - the other known V2 versions are A.3, A.4 and A.5 (though there's at least another two versions on top of those). The PUMA version doesn't have a period between the A and the number, meaning this was probably the start of the convention that the V3 used, where the retail version number follows the letter A. What I'm not sure of the meaning of is the H - I don't have a clue why they chose this particular letter.

Hopefully we'll be hearing about what ROM version the GLAY Expo Plus used soon - if it's anything like the PUMA version I'm sure it'll contain a random letter too.

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Time for perhaps the most bizarre update I've given - some new developer features have been discovered!

All this information comes from rjalda100, who discovered and tested the feature while trying to perform the region change procedure on a V1.

For those unfamiliar with region changing, it's a process you can perform on the American connection models in a similar manner to activating the debug mode - instead of shorting the JP3 solder jumper on the circuit board, however, JP1 and JP2 are shorted instead. I'm unsure about what happens if only one of these two jumpers are shorted; it'll be something to investigate in the future.

As Pirorirotchi demonstrated on page 3, region changing has the effect of switching the ROM version that's used with a different one - the data your Tamagotchi uses is changed from the data used in the American ROM to one used by European models. This isn't necessarily hugely remarkable by itself, though this recent discovery has given us new knowledge about what this feature was used for.

A few days ago rjalda100 was attempting to compare the two ROM versions of an American V1 - before region changing, the ROM version was found to be 4.2. After region changing and ROM testing again, the following screen was shown instead of what was expected:

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This ROM version has never been observed before, and until this point all of the Japanese and worldwide releases in the Connection / Plus series used even integer version numbers - 0.0, 2.0, 2.1, 4.0, 4.2, 6.1, 8.0 and so on. The numbers at the bottom of the screen are also unfamiliar, and their purpose is unclear. I had speculated in the past that there could be entirely new and unknown versions hidden behind the region change feature, so I guess this speculation was proven correct. I had also speculated that odd integer versions were reserved for developer versions - would this speculation be proven correct too?

Upon resetting the Tamagotchi, instead of being greeted by an egg, the time setting screen is shown instead. Sure enough, the date format that was used by this version was Day / Month, as would be expected after switching to a European ROM version. This screen is followed immediately by the naming screen despite no egg having hatched. After this was an entirely new screen with the options "BOY" and "GIRL". Selecting a gender will finally show you the Tamagotchi you'll be raising:

A Burgertchi

Actually, more accurately, the Burgertchi will raise itself. From this point onwards, the only button which functions is the B button - only the standard Tamagotchi view and the clock screen are accessible. Burgertchi does all the cooking and cleaning by itself - if it's hungry, it eats automatically (aptly, it eats a burger). If it makes a mess, it cleans it up. It flicks between a bunch of different animations, too.

I'm not really totally sure what the purpose of this feature is, or if there's anything else that's unique about this ROM version, but as far as I can tell it's some sort of demo mode. Why Burgertchi? No idea. But I can see this sitting behind a screen in a store, demonstrating what a Tamagotchi looks like without actually requiring constant care and attention.

Hopefully, new discoveries like this will continue being made in the near future! The region change mechanic is a truly interesting one which may reveal entirely new Tamagotchi modes to us.

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