Obama vs. Mccain

[*CjPirate*]

LOL.Here, there is like, A WEEK of speeches.

There's no drama at ALL...

The commercials bug me though

The funny one:

lol

I was in a rush to find one

YOU THINK ITS EASY TO MAKE PRIORITIES? LOL thats cracks me up XD

im canadain but im on mccains side (sp?)

 

[tamaw/pants]

Lol, you like socialism? Vote Obama.

Socialism doesn't work. I don't understand why people don't understand that. Read Animal Farm for crying out loud! Or just look at what has happened in other countries.

You know why people from Canada come down here for medical treatment? Because it takes three months or more to get treatment. My mom's friend had to have gal bladder surgery and came down her to have it done because she would have to wait three whole months of excruciating pain - and some people don't have three months.

Plus, if a doctor gets paid the same as a janitor do you think they're going to do a good job? Socialism stifles growth and innovation when someone that works hard and cares about what they do gets paid the same as those who don't want to get off their lazy butts and work. If you like that, move to Russia.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" - Karl Marx

"My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody" - Obama

Now, let's compare.

My reply? Oh, why yes Mr. Obama. Let's start by you spreading your wealth to me right here, right now. 600 dollars plzkthx. ;D

 

[i e r o s a u r x]

I'm not the one to get into politics, but I'm going for Obama. For the reasons that McCain is simply going to turn out as another Bush, and, that America needs change badly.

Though, for my concern, I feel that Obama just might get assassinated. Several people aren't ready for a African American president, and some are.

Nevertheless, I feel Obama has the most chance of winning in my opinion.

 

[sasukeisemo]

NObama! obama WILLINGLY goes to a church where they pretty much say to heck(im not going to cuss) with america. obama is also friends with a person who bombed the pentigon! and like tamaw/pants said "socialsm doesnt work". with obama we are on our way to communism. he wants to give homeless people money. thats why people dont work, because they just get money from the government. NOBAMA FTW!!!!

 

[Aerostella]

NObama! obama WILLINGLY goes to a church where they pretty much say to heck(im not going to cuss) with america. obama is also friends with a person who bombed the pentigon! and like tamaw/pants said "socialsm doesnt work". with obama we are on our way to communism. he wants to give homeless people money. thats why people dont work, because they just get money from the government. NOBAMA FTW!!!!

Educated yourself more.

I took insult to that, as a democrat.

(And that rhymes! 8D)

 

[tamaw/pants]

Educated yourself more.
I took insult to that, as a democrat.

(And that rhymes! 8D)

Actually, he did go to a church with Rev. Jeremiah Wright that said "God *darn* America" and other racist remarks against white people in his sermons for 20 years. Though Obama claimed not to know of such remarks, it's really impossible to miss such a thing. I go to a church and if something like this was said, I would know and I would choose not to return.

He also has association with ACORN - a group known for making a huge amount of fake voting registrations to vote Democrat. They've been known to make dead people and Micky Mouse vote and register underaged teens. And it's not just a small amout - 40% of the applications turned in by ACORN in Nevada between January and July were false.

What is ACORN? Yahoo Answers : https://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/rnc-...47%7D&dist=hppr

For more information on Obama's associations : https://www.barackobamaassociates.info/

I'm not saying this as an personal attack, but you gotta know who he's friends with. Some of it aint pretty.

 

[TamaMum]

Plus, if a doctor gets paid the same as a janitor do you think they're going to do a good job? Socialism stifles growth and innovation when someone that works hard and cares about what they do gets paid the same as those who don't want to get off their lazy butts and work. If you like that, move to Russia.

I'm not a socialist, but I do take issue with that statement

At the moment you're sharing a view point that is misleading.

Why assume that if a doctor gets paid the same as a janitor he is not going to do a good job?

Why does someone choose to follow a career in medicine?

For the big money?

Because they have a vocation to help, treat and hopefully cure the sick?

I'm not saying that there are no doctors on this earth that are only in it for the money.

But I am guessing a lot of medical professionals would be hurt and angry at your implication that they would do a bad job if they were paid less.

What about the thousands of Americans who work hard each day and care about what they do each day and can't afford to get their medical ailments treated with effective medicines because they don't earn enough? Are they all lazy bums who don't deserve a second thought? Not at all.

Socialism is also about working for the good of all - not about every man for himself and if you got unlucky well, too bad. If Obama wants to do things to help improve the situation of a wider variety of Americans - not just the high flying wage earners - then I applaud his intentions.

Heck, no one likes paying high taxes out of their pay packet; but having the attitude "It's Mine! I earned it and I'm Not Sharing Any of It with THEM" is not an endearing attitude nor is it one that will improve the nation's economy.

LOL ... (in jest) ... if Obama becomes president, maybe some of my American friends will get access to better medical care than they are being denied right now because they don't earn the top dollar necessary to jump a waiting list and pay a surgeon to take time out of his busy golf schedule to operate on them..?

 

[Nix666]

I haven't read the whole topic [i don't feel like reading three pages] and although I'm not a total political junkie, I'm would never ever ever want Obama in the white house.
Imagine this, a baby is being aborted in the legal time frame and is in the third trimester. For this sort of abortion they basically induce labor and the woman bores the baby as a still birth. Sometimes the baby is born still alive. Nurses would leave the baby to die even though it would at this point be possible for the baby to survive outside the womb. The baby could live from anywhere of 45 minutes to 8 whole hours. He OPPOSED a bill that protects the babies that were supposed to be aborted but were born alive saying it would just complicate the mother's choice.

Even if you are pro-choice, I think that most of us can agree that's infaticide - the baby, through induced labor born alive then left to die. That's just monstrous in my eyes.

I absolutely agree 100%.

Abortion isn't fair. Most abortions(or at least, from what I've heard) in the UK are done, around the time a baby is not showing signs of being a 'real' baby, but, that's still a baby not given a chance to live.

What you just explained was terible. If that happened(Not that it should be allowed) the babies alive should be taken and cared for, because it's not fair. It's like giving birth, then leaving it in a waste bin. Mothers who do that are punished, so why aren't they?

It makes me sick.

While I don't live in America, and I'm too young to vote, He shouldn't win.

 

[tamaw/pants]

I'm not a socialist, but I do take issue with that statement
At the moment you're sharing a view point that is misleading.

Why assume that if a doctor gets paid the same as a janitor he is not going to do a good job?

Why does someone choose to follow a career in medicine? 

For the big money?

Because they have a vocation to help, treat and hopefully cure the sick?

I'm not saying that there are no doctors on this earth that are only in it for the money.

But I am guessing a lot of medical professionals would be hurt and angry at your implication that they would do a bad job if they were paid less.

What about the thousands of Americans who work hard each day and care about what they do each day and can't afford to get their medical ailments treated with effective medicines because they don't earn enough? Are they all lazy bums who don't deserve a second thought?  Not at all.

Socialism is also about working for the good of all - not about every man for himself and if you got unlucky well, too bad.  If Obama wants to do things to help improve the situation of a wider variety of Americans - not just the high flying wage earners - then I applaud his intentions. 

Heck, no one likes paying high taxes out of their pay packet; but having the attitude "It's Mine! I earned it and I'm Not Sharing Any of It with THEM" is not an endearing attitude nor is it one that will improve the nation's economy.

LOL ... (in jest) ... if Obama becomes president, maybe some of my American friends will get access to better medical care than they are being denied right now because they don't earn the top dollar necessary to jump a waiting list and pay a surgeon to take time out of his busy golf schedule to operate on them..?

I'm not saying it's all about the money and I'm sorry if I worded that wrong.

But spending 8 years at med school and caring enough about helping others to become a doctor, why should these people that work harder than some people at other jobs get paid the same? Why should I be penalized for working hard and being successful? We all gotta pay taxes but if I work hard to be successful, why should I be taxed more than others? I don't think that's right.

Now, I'm not saying people that find it hard to get medical treatment are bums - not at all. I'm saying I don't want people always 'take take take', living off my money when they are fully able to do work themselves. I understand sometimes you're in a low spot and need help - I don't see anything wrong with that. What I see wrong is when people become so used to taking that they feel they deserve it to be given to them - not grateful, not trying to get on their feet so they don't have to live off government funding just there because, why work if it's given to you?

If Obama becomes president and he actually does the whole 'spreading of the wealth', he's still going to be rich. I'm not saying we all should be greedy pigs. But he's going to make it actually harder for the common people. Like "Joe the Plumber" - he wants to buy a business but how can he afford this business if taxes go up? He makes 'x' amount so then his taxes go up. But he has to pay his employees too - how can he afford that?

Just like in Animal Farm. Great book, btw!

 

[bratztroxg]

Lol, you like socialism? Vote Obama.
Socialism doesn't work. I don't understand why people don't understand that. Read Animal Farm for crying out loud! Or just look at what has happened in other countries.

You know why people from Canada come down here for medical treatment? Because it takes three months or more to get treatment. My mom's friend had to have gal bladder surgery and came down her to have it done because she would have to wait three whole months of excruciating pain - and some people don't have three months.

Plus, if a doctor gets paid the same as a janitor do you think they're going to do a good job? Socialism stifles growth and innovation when someone that works hard and cares about what they do gets paid the same as those who don't want to get off their lazy butts and work. If you like that, move to Russia.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" - Karl Marx

"My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody" - Obama

Now, let's compare.

My reply? Oh, why yes Mr. Obama. Let's start by you spreading your wealth to me right here, right now. 600 dollars plzkthx. ;D

That was just on the outskirts of acceptable. I found that post to be mocking Obama. As Obama himself said in the most recent debate, "It is important that we disagree without being disagreeable."

Last night, I watched their final debate, and I've got to say that, in my opinion, Obama was amazing! McCain seemed rather petty, like all he could do was attack Obama and all that he was doing for 'Joe the Plumber', etc. Obama was trying to tackle the big issues, and give up on the squabbles that McCain was mindlessly creating.

Obama attacked him a lot less, and you could barely call it "attacking", because he was showing up McCain's faults, but in a gentlemanly, courteous way. He remained polite throughout the debate, even at points where I would have cracked with frustration at Sen. McCain!

Oh, and by the way, recent studies show that if people were voting right now, Obama would be in the lead by quite a way. Period.

 

[DemonSlayer5050]

theres only two main factors why i dont want mccain

1.Bush-he supports bush completely, having mccain would be like having bush for 4 more years, and personally i think bush did enough damage

2.sarah palin-mccain is very old and most likely will die and leave sarah palin president. sarah isnt ready to lead a country, she was govenor of ONE state, she isnt ready to lead a country

if he didnt have those 2 main factors i wouldnt care if he won

 

[DemonSlayer5050]

That was just on the outskirts of acceptable. I found that post to be mocking Obama. As Obama himself said in the most recent debate, "It is important that we disagree without being disagreeable." <_<
Last night, I watched their final debate, and I've got to say that, in my opinion, Obama was amazing! McCain seemed rather petty, like all he could do was attack Obama and all that he was doing for 'Joe the Plumber', etc. Obama was trying to tackle the big issues, and give up on the squabbles that McCain was mindlessly creating.

Obama attacked him a lot less, and you could barely call it "attacking", because he was showing up McCain's faults, but in a gentlemanly, courteous way. He remained polite throughout the debate, even at points where I would have cracked with frustration at Sen. McCain!

Oh, and by the way, recent studies show that if people were voting right now, Obama would be in the lead by quite a way. Period.

sorry for double post, but i agree. Mccain just seems to attack obama instead of talking about the real issues. they even were saying that on the news.

 

[Fire.Fly]

I was watching an Obama speech today and I heard this, it's not to do with politics but I thought it was funny.

Obama: My first name was chosen by my father, it literally means 'That one'.

Crowd: *Laugh and clap*

Obama: And my middle name ... was chosen by someone who obviously thought that I'd never run for president.

LOL.

Anyway, I changed my mind. I think they'd be both be good presidents. =]=]

But Obama would look better on the dollar!

 

[Sweet Kandi]

That was just on the outskirts of acceptable. I found that post to be mocking Obama. As Obama himself said in the most recent debate, "It is important that we disagree without being disagreeable." <_<
Last night, I watched their final debate, and I've got to say that, in my opinion, Obama was amazing! McCain seemed rather petty, like all he could do was attack Obama and all that he was doing for 'Joe the Plumber', etc. Obama was trying to tackle the big issues, and give up on the squabbles that McCain was mindlessly creating.

Obama attacked him a lot less, and you could barely call it "attacking", because he was showing up McCain's faults, but in a gentlemanly, courteous way. He remained polite throughout the debate, even at points where I would have cracked with frustration at Sen. McCain!

Oh, and by the way, recent studies show that if people were voting right now, Obama would be in the lead by quite a way. Period.

Completely agreed.

All I saw during that debate was Obama giving sincere answers, and McCain attacking and snickering at every single thing he said.

It's sad to think that someone immature like that could be leading our country. Someone with the thought of 'disagree with me, I'll make fun of you for it'.

Some people never quite leave high school.

 

[tamaw/pants]

Hehe, I gotta disagree about who won the debate, lol!

Though actually no one "wins", I think that McCain did a great job. I think that Obama's associations should be brought up. I mean, there are left wing people but he's more on the radical side, IMHO.

Oh, and just something to keep in mind when watching the debate, if you ever saw McCain kind of tense and fidget a bit which may be read as a sign of annoyance/aggression, just remember that with the torture he was put though everyday for that many years caused a lot of nerve damage. Just so you know his body language wasn't mocking, but he can't help those little things.

Honestly, what I heard was Obama saying just he wasn't going to be like Bush but never really tackled how he was either going to do something or afford it. And though this wasn't the biggest part of the debate, Obama said that 100% of McCain's ads were negative - not only did he say that once, he repeated that twice. That's totally false and honestly, I have no idea why he would say that 100% were negative when that's truely not the case.

I think that Obama has been shady about things. Someone mentioned that Sarah Palin just ran one state? What has Obama done? Not even that. He was a lawyer and and a senator. He didn't even run one state. That's a complete double standard.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/...rack_obama.html

Now, about the polls. There are many different studies and such and really, we won't know till election day. I can't remember, but didn't the same kind of thing happen Bush vs Kerry? Honestly, we just can't really know till then either way.

 

[rachel3802]

Completely agreed.All I saw during that debate was Obama giving sincere answers, and McCain attacking and snickering at every single thing he said.

It's sad to think that someone immature like that could be leading our country. Someone with the thought of 'disagree with me, I'll make fun of you for it'.

Some people never quite leave high school.

OMG!

I was like: "Mom! Get McCain to stop being a meanie!!"

LMAO.

Canadian = Conservative = Republican/Democrat?

Lol. I dont know

 

[snickerpie]

McCain rox all of your sox! He will bring the country back together! If Obama wins, the country will be ruined. Stock market will crash, people will lose jobs, and BAD THINGS will happen!

GO MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Becca Juice]

McCain rox all of your sox! He will bring the country back together! If Obama wins, the country will be ruined. Stock market will crash, people will lose jobs, and BAD THINGS will happen!
GO MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!!

How do you figure?

Don't just spout meaningless things without being able to back them up.



You bash someone and then you give no proof. . . it's not a very stable argument.

---

Grah I'm just going to go off here.

I'm personally for Obama.

• Homosexual marriage: It's my personal opinion that this should be enforced. I have several gay friends and it pains me to think that they might grow up without the liberty of wedding the one they love. :[
   
  
• Pro-Choice: This is sort of hard for me to explain, most of it is just how I figure, so correct me if I'm wrong; I'm leaning towards the pro-choice side of things at the moment. Note that I do not ENCOURAGE abortion and that I wouldn't enable it or suggest it at any time, but I believe that they shouldn't completely outlaw it for medical purposes. Like say, if there was a high risk that both the mother AND child would die in birth, I would say that it would be her choice if she wanted to save herself by aborting the child so that she can hopefully have more children later. Another thing, is that even if it wasn't allowed, I think people would just go back to back-alley abortions. I've no proof to support this, mind you, but you can never really stop someone from doing something they see necessary. And all we need is to find more teenagers dead in an alley --- that would be absurd.
  But otherwise, pro-life ftw.
   
  
• Get our troops home: McCain has suffered from the war; I feel bad for him and all, but I think that if McCain becomes president we're going to be lead straight to WWIII --- I heard somewhere that he was planning to take us out of Iraq, just to shift our focus onto some other place, I think it was Afganistan or something Dx I don't know if this is valid or not, though. But I don't want to be in war, it just kills our men and women --- and if people are so against abortion, you don't seem to have a problem willingly killing people who are still alive. The peaceful approach would be nice for once. :[
   
  
• Taxes: This would make my family life sooo much easier @__@. We're down reallly low on that list of "How much money someone makes in a year" or something of that sort, and our taxes, if Obama wins, would go way down. And rich arses like my cousin Steve would finally have to give a little to the government and economy. I like his "Spread the wealth around" 'slogan'. For those on the lower class, it's an improvement, and the homeless deserve homes as much as anyone else. I don't see how people can just look over this stuff.
   
  
• Health care: I'll admit that I don't know much on this subject, but from what I've heard, he intends to make sure that everyone gets proper health care --- it's a little concerning he hasn't specified how, but still.
  

I'll try to look for valid sources later --- I don't have the time right now.

Bash me if you want.

 

[Pink Craze]

[*]Pro-Choice: This is sort of hard for me to explain, most of it is just how I figure, so correct me if I'm wrong; I'm leaning towards the pro-choice side of things at the moment. Note that I do not ENCOURAGE abortion and that I wouldn't enable it or suggest it at any time, but I believe that they shouldn't completely outlaw it for medical purposes. Like say, if there was a high risk that both the mother AND child would die in birth, I would say that it would be her choice if she wanted to save herself by aborting the child so that she can hopefully have more children later. Another thing, is that even if it wasn't allowed, I think people would just go back to back-alley abortions. I've no proof to support this, mind you, but you can never really stop someone from doing something they see necessary. And all we need is to find more teenagers dead in an alley --- that would be absurd.But otherwise, pro-life ftw.

Actually Becca, I think (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) McCain is against abortions except in the case that the baby is threatening the mother's life.

That's it. If you're raped, have the baby anyways. :|

But yes, I'm pro-choice on the abortion issue. I think every woman should have the right to do what she wants with her body.

One more issue that I think hasn't been brought up before...gun control?

I support the Democratic standpoint here. :]

It really should be harder to get a gun. I know people argue that it's unconstitutional and whatnot, but nobody's taking the right away. They're just making sure that you aren't the kind of person who will endanger others.

Ahh..shoot. I was just thinking of something else I wanted to say. Forgot. D:

 

[tamaw/pants]

Actually I'm pretty positive it was Obama trying to move to Afghanistan - not McCain. And remember, people that want to wipe us off the face of the earth aren't going to be peaceful about it. They just aren't and it sucks, but it's not going to work that way.

Today I was listening to a radio and there was a gay/lesbian group endorsing McCain. Gay and Lesbian Republicans, I think it was, and mind you, they didn't endorse Bush the last election, either. Just thought that the endorsement was interesting.

Oh, and about the gun deal. I heard a statistic that 4 out of every 5 guns used seriously was for self defense. Do you think a law is going to stop people from getting guns? The only thing it's going to do is to take away the protection from those four out of five and the last one is going to get it anyway.